1 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-03 06:32
Recently I've become real lonely because I realized I don't have any truly close friends. While I do have friends, I don't really hang out with them much or have any true connection with them; I just talk to them during school. I watch a bit of online content/entertainment, but not very much, like streamers and youtube, and I've become semi-uncomfortable watching these people, especially if they are lesser known. There's a weird dynamic in online content, especially with streaming, where you know a bunch about the entertainer, but the entertainer knows nothing about you. You can end up feeling a close connection with the entertainer, due to knowing so many of their mannerisms, facts about their personal and daily life, their personal opinions, etc., but they know absolutely nothing about you other than your username. This makes for a sort of "uncanny valley" of communication imo, and it makes me feel weird and uncomfortable. Granted, I still watch these people, but in my current time of loneliness, I just feel weird knowing someone so closely when they know nothing of me. Have any of you experienced this? I feel like this is something I'm not alone on.
2 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-03 12:07
You aren't alone. I used to be like that a lot during the 2000s and even during the early 2010s. I became very self-aware on the notion just as you are explaining in this thread. That's around the time I stopped caring so much about these "people". Realizing the truth. But I've also been a hell of a lot more alone since then too. Loneliness is a rough thing these days as it seems more and more of us are going through it all the same yet alone.
3 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-03 12:33
Not to be mean, but you don't know much about these entertainers in the first place. You only know what they are presenting to you on video, which is not real.
It's not necessarily because they are putting up a fake persona (although a whole lot do), it's something that just happens when you talk to a public. Try making your own private vlogs and then try making one with the idea of putting it online, or streaming: it's insane how different you sound the moment you hit that live button and how much of yourself you run through a filter even while trying to act natural. Much like social media, the you that you present to others is not really you. When the internet was young you didn't have that feeling of "showing yourself to the world", sites were like small houses, so you had a more genuine connection with the people there. But now I wouldn't say it's possible except with anonymity. The uncanny valley is everywhere now.
4 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-03 21:03
The type of one-sided relationship that you describe is called a "parasocial relationship".
5 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-04 05:39
Yeah, I realize it's a modified persona, rather than the real them, but it still creates the feeling of connection. I guess just with the fake or modified persona rather than their actual self.>>4
Thanks, this is exactly it.
Some more thoughts:
This reminds of the idea of "hyperreality," the inability to distinguish fiction and reality. I guess a parasocial relationship is just another example of this in the modern world. Other examples of hyperreality would be makeup/clothing ads (edited skin tones or body types), subscription services (false ownership of media), social media (false presentation of life). I wonder how much of the future will just be fake things we think are real?
6 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-04 06:52
Imagine growing up in a world where your family movie collection is just owned by someone else and "rented" to you? I grew up with motherfucking VHS tapes and later DVDs that we had whenever we wanted, unlike Netflix where often movies and shows are just removed when contracts run out.
7 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-04 11:00
I wonder how much of the future will just be fake things we think are real?
It's not the future, it's now.
8 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-05 20:56
My "new years resolution" for 2020 is to start compulsively hoarding digital media. Last year was a wake up call since so many websites either shut down completely or sold out and got rid of their free hosting services. I can't even tell you how many videos or songs that completely vanished from the internet that I could've saved. I'm also rebuilding my physical DVD/BD collection as an extra precaution.
9 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-06 03:31
bless you, doing god's work
10 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-06 07:55
I'm doing the exact same, good luck to you. I've been mostly hoarding up flash files, ebooks, videos, and music. Probably will move onto anime, porn, and hentai by Spring. I already went on a huge hoard for games throughout 2015 - 2018. I have about 20TB of games saved and 10TB of anime already. I just got another 8TB HDD to pump full. >>9
You're damn right. We are the "Angels" preserving the digital world with our "brave hearts".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff5EfHit2Is
11 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-06 19:20
What admiration is there to be had in saving things? I find it uncomfortable that you'd rather preserve other people's stuff than make your own.
12 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-06 21:05
They're not mutually exclusive. I save tons of stuff and still make my own software and art, doesn't mean I can't archive stuff too.
13 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-09 09:23
I make my own art and content as well. Been doing so since 2004 online anyways. I think my obsession came about when I had a bad crash in 2008 and lost everything I had ever done with no way to perserve it. Lost my accounts on things because I kept changing "my brand". Definitely have taken a different approach on things since those days.
14 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-10 19:40
Digital hoarders. Probably mostly from not having any money and being a NEET to feel somewhat accomplished.
15 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-11 00:26
I don't approve of hoarders, but I suddenly appreciate them when what they hoarded is taken off the net and they reupload it. I'd appreciate them more if they didn't hoard mostly porn and videogames.
16 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-11 10:35
Yeah, people's going to masturbate and play vidya though.
17 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-12 05:06
I can agree on vidya, but in the case of porn, the vast majority of it isn't rare enough to care about saving.
18 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-15 19:17
Depends on how niche your tastes/standards are. It's a pain in the ass to find hentai that I actually like because I'm picky. I don't even have degenerate fetishes. Between finding the genre that I like in an art style I can enjoy, I need to save the stuff I like.
19 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-18 12:48
Don'y do it then.
I do it because things I like disappear from the web. That's it.