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Small discord server for anyone who wants to join

1 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-26 04:54
Out of boredom during quarantine i made a discord server to hang out on and so far there's a few members. Anyone's welcome if u want in. https://discord.gg/EXBAfQ Have a nice day
2 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-26 18:52
fuck off
3 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-26 20:14
Nice try FBI
4 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-26 21:29
Why would you suck the little life this place has left?
5 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-26 22:11
>>4
Not OP and I don't really care about discords etc, but do you really think this place is dying? It's a lot more populated than when I first found it.

At that time you'd get maybe one post a day. This thread alone has >>5 and was only started today.
6 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-26 23:14
>>5
I agree, it isn't that bad really. The YKK revisited thread has 7 replies and a decent discussion seems to be going on.
I wish there were more people here, but it doesn't look like Post Office's fully dead.
7 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-27 03:15
>>1
No, thank you.
8 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-27 08:54
>>7
https://youtu.be/Sf9b2quolEc
9 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-27 15:09
I joined it. It's, as you expect from any Discord server, terrible.
10 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-27 17:33
>>9

While I don't really want to bump this guy's ad for a discord, what do you mean by this? I've considered joining one for a bit to talk to people but is it more just people spamming memes or something?
11 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-27 19:11
>>10
Not that anon, but yeah, most public Discord servers are like that. The ones with hundreds of users have 10 active users anyway and it's either a circlejerk or emoji/meme-only communication.

That being said, I've found a welcoming circlejerk recently, so it boils down to people, in the end. I'm sure this imageboard's Discord server would be nice if it was managed properly.
12 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-27 19:24
>>11
That's a shame. I remember joining lainchan's IRC once and it was basically indistinguishable from /pol/, which was really disappointing.

It'd be nice to find a small community like this one but that was more immediate like irc or discord.
13 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-27 19:43
>>12
I've been on Lainchan's IRC 5-6 years ago and it was... odd. Not that much /pol/ back then, but there were attention seeking glitterboys, who should have been banned, but for whatever reason weren't.
The valuable convos were often overshadowed by these people.

Lainchan has this one problem that everyone wants to prove they're the best hacker around. There are lots of people who are into darker stuff and barely into technology, too. Was the former owner of Lainchan very much into tech? I think not. He even got the whole imageboard into debt, because he used the server money for some shit IIRC. That's the easiest example to point out.

I agree it'd be cool if we had some place to talk on. I value every piece of convo here, but it's impossible for us to ever become friends, after all.
It's weird how this topic basically resurfaces on several imageboards, including this one:
→/read/1577164055
but there's still no solution for what we feel.
14 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-27 20:37
>>10
every discord server is a twitch chat
>>13
lainchan has barely anything to do with tech or cyberpunk outside of a few programming threads.
15 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-27 22:09
>>14
every discord server is a twitch chat
That's... actually a great way to describe most of them. Didn't think of that.

lainchan has barely anything to do with tech or cyberpunk outside of a few programming threads.
True. It used to have a little more to do with tech, some of the stuff described in the zine and what people talked about on the IRC was actually cool and in-depth.
Unfortunately the ratio of cool stuff to ricing and posing was like 1:5.
16 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-28 09:27
>>15

Maybe not so related but where are /prog/ communities now? Ones where they actually talk about programming and not just introductory threads and resources exchange without noticeable progress. Ones where actually discuss their experience and the problems they faced during their programming sessions with any given language instead of constantly comparing languages and pasting the same arguments not support their language but against the other language. Technology boards are a meme because they turn out into ricing communities and text editors flames talking about how easy it is to rice your TODO file.

I have this big hole in my heart for genuine programming discussions and I have yet to fill it. Damn the people who claim to support free software and technology as a whole but instead of working on producing good software, as they claim to, they end up shittalking each others' preferences and ricing their machines. I'm so pissed that the free software communities are becoming soulless and unproductive.
17 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-28 10:36
>>6
I don't fit in here so I just lurk, got nothing to add regardless.
Most lurkers might be like this, I gotta force my text in a way that's not natural and can only do it so much. No offense intended to anyone.
This won't stop orange users from finding this place and killing it, discord ads are a bad omen.
18 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-28 20:14
>>10
Same anon from yesterday.
It's a basic social Discord server. I don't find them that interesting though...
I think that's a problem with group chats as a whole where you are faced with an endless stream of messages. You have to respond quickly before the chat switches to another subject and that doesn't give much room to be thorough and lead the conversation to a more interesting place.
19 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-28 20:59
>>16
Sadly the only real programming discussion I've ever found is either in small groups of colleagues or, rarely, on hacker news.

>>13
It's an interesting discussion though, I also would like some online comrades to occasionally discuss things with. I guess the problem is that it would have to be really heavily moderated or gated somehow, and personally I wouldn't even be able to tell you what the rules should be or have time to enforce them.

>>17
I'm glad you're here, even if you just lurk, friend.
20 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-30 02:09
>>16
world4ch /prog/ moved to progrider and then to tinychan
https://dis.tinychan.net/prog/

there's the other /prog/
https://dis.4ct.org/prog/

There is also SchemeBBS
https://textboard.org/prog/

and shitaba
https://4taba.net/board/cc

as well as 4-ch
http://4-ch.net/code/

and there is programming discussion on just about every session of /tea/.
21 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-30 14:03
>>16
I have this big hole in my heart for genuine programming discussions and I have yet to fill it.

Same. Looks like there's no good place to find support and maybe get people engaged in your projects or actually discuss programming.
One of the scarce reasons I miss university, to be honest.

>>19
or gated somehow
This imageboard is just obscure, that's why we're mostly able to hold a quality conversation right now. It's hard to balance obscurity, though, so that people who'd fit in here could actually find this place.
Besides, one bad move (e.g. when the board gets linked in a wrong place) and everything gets flooded either way.

>>17
Why do you think you don't fit in, though?
Anyway, good to have you here.

>>20
Paid a visit to some of these places and well...

The first place discusses mostly Reddit, politics and Russians.

On the second board there's literally a thread about a guy whining they banned him from Discord.

SchemeBBS seems to actually be fine, but you have to be interested in LISP.

Shiitaba and 4-ch seem to be somewhat OK.

The decentralization doesn't help in that case, as you have to visit 5 different boards and swim in excrements to find a shiny pearl.

There's only so much you can discuss in the time window of the other place you mentioned, especially when it divulges to other topics. It's still nice and better than most places, though.
22 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-30 15:25
>>21
I've found only one good place to discuss it and that was on Discord, so I wouldn't recommend it. Otherwise I just talk to my /tech/ friend about code and projects we're working on. That fills that for me, but I wish there was an actually good /tech/ board on a text/imageboard. 4chan's /prog/ was apparently good according to a friend but I never used it and then of course moot nuked it.
23 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-30 15:35
>>19
It's an interesting discussion though, I also would like some online comrades to occasionally discuss things with. I guess the problem is that it would have to be really heavily moderated or gated somehow, and personally I wouldn't even be able to tell you what the rules should be or have time to enforce them.
From what I've seen in fairly successful communities, they usually function with few rules but they have a lot of gatekeeping to make sure only people who will fit manage to get in, usually through invite-only stuff, you have to have a friend who's in to get in, etc etc. Also at least for the few successful Discords I've seen, they don't ban people, they stick them in a pit channel where they can't see other channels and can only talk in the pit. From there they can either stay there till they're let out (if they even end up being let out) or they can talk in the pit and ask to be let out. It's not a perfect system, but it works a lot better than banning and usually can be used to punish rule-offenders temporarily easier.
24 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-30 16:35
>>22
Is it still operating, or did it end up like most Discord servers?

>>23
I run a gatekeeped anime community myself. We literally used to pick people off anime listing services and send personalized invites. I must admit finding them in the first place was tough, though, and many have ignored the invites too (since people like that don't have the best opinion of Discord servers, I believe).
Then we stopped scouting, so the only way to get in there now is by knowing one of the members.
That kind of exclusivity ensured the prolonged lifespan of the community (it still exists and is fairly active, even after 3 years), but it's a bummer there aren't many new members, who'd bring something interesting in.

It's also sad, because if I wasn't one of the creators of that community I would probably never end up there, because I wouldn't be invited. I feel like there are many places with valuable people out there, but I won't ever learn about their existence.

Also at least for the few successful Discords I've seen, they don't ban people, they stick them in a pit channel where they can't see other channels and can only talk in the pit.

The public server I've made had the same exact rule. The best servers I've been to did the same as well.
I mean, if someone can't even be bothered to write a short sentence about themselves, it means they either don't care enough, or their brains are fried. In both cases letting these people in would be detrimental to the residing community.

So, basically, it all boils down to:

Invite-only
Good for the community, disadvantageous to people who are looking, but can't ever learn about the existence of such a place.

Gatekept by a pit channel
Good balance between being public and maintaining the quality.

Security by obscurity
Somewhat good. Dig in long enough and you will find it. Requires effort to get in, which is a filter already.
Might fall down when it gets flooded by someone who links it in a public place.
25 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-31 02:31
>>1
I'd join anon but as >>23 said: less rules are good, I don't agree with gatekeeping in the sense of inviting your friend then they'd need to invite someone to get in or something similar though.

Also at least for the few successful Discords I've seen, they don't ban people, they stick them in a pit channel where they can't see other channels and can only talk in the pit. From there they can either stay there till they're let out (if they even end up being let out) or they can talk in the pit and ask to be let out. It's not a perfect system, but it works a lot better than banning and usually can be used to punish rule-offenders temporarily easier.
Servers only do that so they'll keep their member count up. People seem to have complexes about that.

I run my own discord server that's small so if you need any help then send an invite my way and I can help!
26 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-31 10:11
>>24
See this sounds like something I'd love to be a part of, but the problem is that obviously I don't know anyone there, so I'll never get in.

I understand the reasoning though. As soon as something is public it really suffers.

That said, I think there are a lot of people who are "outside" of these kinds of communities and have no way in, as seen in →/read/1577164055 so I don't know what the solution is but I'm sure there must be one.

As an aside, I'm grateful to be able to have this discussion with all of you, I think >>21 is right in that it's because this is obscure. But, that does make me worry about what would happen if this became a lot more well-known. Perhaps we should organise a place to go if that were to happen, I don't know.
27 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-31 14:00
>>25
Servers only do that so they'll keep their member count up. People seem to have complexes about that.

I don't really agree with you. When you have a server with good people, you usually want more people like that to join in. There are good servers with only 20 active members that are open in that way so they can recruit more people to share more experiences (i.e. who knows if the next person to join isn't some programmer working on a cool game, or an indie musician, or some other creative person).
I have recently joined two servers with pit channels and both of them let me in without much of a problem, just because my intro didn't consist of just three words. Having to wait for a mod for approval also filters out the people who are unwilling to wait, which may suggest their attention spans are short or they just came to cause trouble.

The servers that care about having lots of people (and solely on that) don't have pit channels. They just let everyone in and the whole thing usually dies fast.

>>26
See this sounds like something I'd love to be a part of, but the problem is that obviously I don't know anyone there, so I'll never get in.

I try to repay for my sins by making public Discord servers, which sort of serve as recruitment grounds for the people who show they could fit in the right server, because they're curious about anime and don't just blindly watch everything without a thought. If I see such a person, I DM them with an offer.

Unfortunately, this doesn't really work, because the people I look for have probably given up on looking for communities (on Discord, or at all).

But, that does make me worry about what would happen if this became a lot more well-known.

Even if I said that just being obscure to maintain a quality of discourse has a downside of being potentially discovered and flooded, I don't really think that will happen here. You have to put some effort in to find this place, and this is enough to repel lots of people, including these, who don't really know what an imageboard is in the first place (because they've started out with Discord).
That being said, I would love to discuss things with you people here on a pseudonymous basis, but I heard the IRC is long dead - shame.
28 Name: Anonymous : 2020-05-31 19:22
>>25
Servers only do that so they'll keep their member count up. People seem to have complexes about that.
Maybe this is the case but I've never seen any with pits using them for that purpose, although I might be wrong. Thing is, pit users don't show up on the main list so it doesn't really change how it looks once you're in the Discord.

>>27
Having to wait for a mod for approval also filters out the people who are unwilling to wait, which may suggest their attention spans are short or they just came to cause trouble.
Agreed. One of the good Discords I was in had a channel that was open to all established members, and newly joined users could only talk in there. Kind of like an intro channel, but it served as a good vetting place and also a way to fuck with people who just wanted to spam and cause shit. Only after being talked to or "ok'd" by an existing member could they join. The system was actually really good and kept out a lot of stupid people who wouldn't have added anything.
29 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-02 18:57
>>1
How interesting. I occasionally post here, but why not join a Discord "server" and isolate myself from the people here, all for the low cost of installing proprietary spyware, being unable to use Tor for posting, agreeing that everything I send the company has a license to, and being harvested by a private corporation looking to build a critical mass of users before selling them under the bridge?

People who do this are awful, because they may genuinely believe this is community-building, but it's not in any sense. All this does is help these vampires draw more blood and completely isolate people to strongarm others into joining.

As for programming venues, Lainchan's /lambda/ suits me just fine. I don't think there's currently a superior anonymous programming forum. I'm generally unwilling to create accounts just to participate somewhere, and most IRC are just people idling for long periods of time. I participate in one other group I won't mention here, because it's an offshoot of something strange and each participant is generally expected to be a heavy participant in a way most other forums don't.
30 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-03 15:56
The issue with Discord, which is constantly perpetuated by the software itself, is that server owners are never content with a small group of users (say, less than 20). Every half-decent server that I've been on has been consistently destroyed by growth-starved owners that only care about bloating the number of users and having more and more posts in each room, not whether any discussions of legitimate wit, value, or interest are held. How do people even use these servers with thousands of people logged in at once for anything other than simple shitposting?

As users in this thread have mentioned, this can be only circumvented by difficult-to-find, gatekeeping moderators - but, of course, those servers are impossible to join without knowing someone from them already, making the process mostly pointless.
31 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-03 19:45
>>30
I've noticed that there is an actual "Discord Admin" archetype. There's a whole bunch of people who get off on having their very own community, and derive their pleasure from 'owning' a group of people, even though that group of people never formed around them. You'll see a whole lot of 'My discord guild...' posts and proudly stating they're a Discord Guild Owner in social media profiles.
32 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-03 22:07
>>31
Yeah those people are terrible, just real tools. I used to want to run a guild back when I thought it had some value, but I eventually realised that people who try to run guilds without a specific reason (e.g. for a specific type of community that doesn't already have a place to talk) end up becoming power-hungry or self-absorbed because of running one, if they weren't already. Power corrupts, even in stupid situations like running a Discord guild.
33 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-03 22:21
>>31
>>32
I'm >>24 and an co-creator/owner of 4-5 guilds. Have never cared for anything else than the quality of discourse, but I guess I'm in the minority.
As I mentioned, some of them are about anime (so the topic's specified), some are pretty much "whatever goes" and even in the latter case I put users higher than the numbers.

I'm not the only person to run things like that. There's this video game, which has a spin-off imageboard and that imageboard has a Discord guild, too. They have a pit channel and the only place that links to the guild is the imageboard itself. From what I've seen so far, they don't try to make it the biggest community ever; the mods don't get power hungry too. I haven't been there for a long time, though.
There's also a guild hosting the emotes related to the aforementioned game and this one allegedly had a community, but as you can imagine it's been killed off.

There's also a sad case of that game about demon girls that came out recently - someone impersonated the actual creator of the game and made an "official" Discord guild. That's just amazingly disgusting, honestly.
They've been forced to stop impersonating the actual author of the game, but they still remain the owner of the second biggest fan community guild for the game, despite their shitty behaviour.
34 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-03 23:14
>>30
I joined a whole lot of small channels. Anything with 20 users is usually just idle and forgotten.
35 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-04 15:45
>>34
If that's true, then the server never would have sustained a community anyways. If there's nothing to say, there's nothing to say.
36 Name: Paperplane : 2020-06-05 15:00
On a similar note: I really want to like 22chan but their ad for the discord server is really off putting. They go for this "old /b/" vibe but then put their discord server right on top which doesn't fit the rest of the board at all.
Been there and who would've guessed; All anime pics talking about HRT.
37 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-05 18:51
>>36
Why does Discord attract these kinds of people? I've had similar experiences.
38 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-05 19:01
>>37
https://www.reference.com/world-view/baader-meinhof-phenomenon-b5261502b8a61dac
39 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-05 19:30
>>37
That's just the category of adults who would spend their time in a public chatroom designed for "gamers".
40 Name: Paperplane : 2020-06-06 11:14
>>38
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
would be more fitting, if you wanted to make an argument.
But the phenomeon you posted is also pretty interesting:
A friend was over and he told me about the Yu-Gi-Oh manga, specifically that it wasn't always about the TGC and that the early chapters are worth looking into. And I was totally surprised because I only ever knew about the anime and thought the TGC is where it all started.

And two days later I see someone in social media posting a panel of said ealry chapters of the manga.
41 Name: Paperplane : 2020-06-06 11:17
>>39

Depends. I joined some "group finding" discords to find people to play some online multiplayer game with and the guys I met there were all pretty normal people. I think as soon as you drift into this anime/imageboard sphere you're suddenly never far from furries and trannies. They're just inseperable. But don't worry, there's still decent people on discord.
42 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-06 11:26
>>40
I was trying to say that you tend to notice those kind of people more because it's a hot topic on imageboards and alike. I tend to maintain separate mental contexts for every website so even if I did came across them on Discord before, because I'm not subconsciously looking for them I didn't even notice.
43 Name: Paperplane : 2020-06-07 08:26
>>42
it's a hot topic on imageboards
I noticed this back in 2008 though. Back then you had tripfags on /b/ posting with anime avatars (mostly female avatars and never far from erping) and furries also weren't rare. Imageboards and sexually deviant people being close to each other isn't a hot topic in my opinion, it's a well documented phenomenon. And thus it's no big surprise that discords for IBs tend to harbour the same kind of audience.
44 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-07 20:27
>>33
I know what discord you mean thats the spinoff imageboard of the game. It's pretty chill there but the horny people etc put me off even though i'm fairly active.
45 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-08 00:48
>>42
I tend to maintain separate mental contexts for every website
did you go to reddit training camp to achieve this ability?
46 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-08 01:16
>>45
If >>42 is able to better appreciate what kind of posting style is appropriate for each internet community they are involved in because of that, then it's a valuable trait that you should try to imitate.
47 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-08 10:55
>>44
Yes, indeed. But what else would you expect from this game's community? It's not like the game itself was very serious and prude, there's a literal sex worker android in it.
Some people can't turn the horny off, though.
48 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-09 20:16
op here, i almost forgot i left this here after going on a break for a bit. Sorry if the invite fucks anyone over but as i said i just made this out of boredom so it isn't that quality anyways, you don't have to join. I was just hoping with more people things would be a bit lively since most people i've met on these kind of boards are nice in general, or maybe i haven't been around much after a while. Imma post a new link if anyone wants to but there isn't much i have to offer there. Also if anyone is annoyed by shitposting instead of actual conversation, i have separate channels for them so you don't have to worry about people spamming shit in general chats. https://discord.gg/7KCabvv

>>7 it's all good kind anon

>>9
>>10
>>11 what do you think i could improve with mine to make it more appealing?

>>19 i guess what i'm aiming for is kinda like having online comrades to vibe with or something like that

>>23 i dunno about this pit stuff, but i could go easy on rules

>>25 any advice for running small servers?

>>29 sorry if the invite came off this way, but i was just bored, i don't really want to force anyone into anything. It's only if anyone's interested

>>30 i guess when i created it i was aiming for just a small group of people i could come back to but right now about 20 is proving to be a bit barren. if i wanted to i could try to make that number work, but as i said before i think i'd be a bit more lively with more people, but not any overwhelming number.

>>31 i hope i'm not coming off in that way lol

>>34 yea that's what i'm starting to fear will happen on my own
49 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-10 15:53
>>48
Okay dude you seem alright so I'm just gonna tell you this: people on textboards and even the majority of people on alternative 4chan boards despise discord. It's a bad chat client with lots of horrid attitudes and people. It's basically a meme cesspool and the fact that your discord has a "shitposting channel" tells me yours won't be great or even worth joining. By creating these servers, you are sucking the life out of boards like this. For the past month, people have given pretty much only this very thread attention. Honestly I think if you want a "nice memer" community you should post this server on [s4s]
50 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-11 00:05
>>49
Ohhhh, after being on various boards for a while i never really knew the reputation of discord in these places... Thanks for the insight tho. I'm not sure how much longer my server will hold up either way so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
51 Name: Paperplane : 2020-06-11 09:34
>>49
It's a bad chat client
I disagree. It's functional, free and everyone can set one up. Skype had bad quality and bad connections and for Teamspeak many needed to rent a server.
with lots of horrid attitudes and people
Yes and no. It's a tool and everyone can use it and like cars, screwdrivers or forks assholes use those too.
But yeah, many public servers are filled with these people, but even more are just about a topic/community/game and are fine. I joined one for team finding in a multiplayer game and everyone just does what the server is for.
It's basically a meme cesspool
see above. It's not a uniform platform.
and the fact that your discord has a "shitposting channel" tells me yours won't be great or even worth joining
True. That's where your actual point should begin. The way a server is ran usually dictates its audience. A channel like this of course attracts the very kind of people this anon and many others despise so much, me included.
By creating these servers, you are sucking the life out of boards like this.
That is my main concern, too. Usually you don't NEED a discord server for a board, because the board itself is where the community interacts with each other. I'd say even an IRC detracts from the main thing, but this one's dead anyway so I don't mind.
If you board isn't fast as 4chan and you can allow for multiple splitoffs of the commmunity it's fine, because new people will replace them soon and the site won't miss the traffic. But for slow boards it's not necessary and will almost always form a 2nd community.
52 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-12 15:52
So people who have no idea about the community want to make a public discord server for said community. Excellent.
I think I'll keep my discussion here, thank you.
53 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-18 14:31
>>51
I just want a child-free chat about things that aren't anime or porn. At the very best it's about programming because everyone's a programmer nowadays.
54 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-23 14:35
Just my two cents: if you are FORCED to use Discord for whatever reason, there are two good unofficial clients: cordless for terminal, and Ripcord for desktop. They are far lighter than the official client; just don't get caught using them.
55 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-25 00:27
>>54
just don't get caught using them.
Caught by who? And why? What's so bad about using an unofficial discord client?
56 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-25 02:48
>>55
it's against the discord terms of service, so you can get banned if someone happens to report you using it. however, i don't recall any incident of someone getting banned just by using it.
57 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-25 05:14
>>56
I guess discord really wants to have your data.

Disgusting. I'm not gonna even use it for talking to friends now. P2P or nothing.
58 Name: Paperplane : 2020-06-26 16:19
>>53
I just want a child-free chat about things that aren't anime or porn.
Then make one.
59 Name: Anonymous : 2020-06-27 21:24
>>58
I did, several times. The problem isn't making one but finding people who'd actually like to build a community instead of just shilling themselves, and promoting the server around without getting the enmity of the unwanted. It's just not worth the time, effort and costs. It's already difficult enough to get anybody to join if you spam invite links on the trashiest places on the web.
60 Name: Paperplane : 2020-06-29 05:33
>>59
Sounds to me like there's just not enough people who are looking for/intrested in such a place OR they already have one and don't need another one.
61 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-02 21:46
>>60
I'm not >>59 but he's totally correct. Half the people on the internet are assholes. Add anonymity into that balance and you can guess the results if you spread something around for people to join.

The only communities I've ever been a part of that were worthwhile were small, hard to enter, and unknown.

I'd like to be part of another at some point.
62 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-04 16:35
>>61
The only cure for low-effort trolling on the internet is good moderation and an adherence to pre-established rules, both of which are in short supply nowadays due to automation.
63 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-05 15:39
>>61
>>62
Except even the things that aren't called low-effort trolling are just as low-effort and braindead.
There are subjects that you simply cannot touch because people don't have pre-established opinions to throw at each other or it's an actually unpopular view that people actually disagree with, so when you touch upon these things you witness that people are completely incapable of thinking and their various parties are all the same thing. There's so much uniformity of thought it's basically impossible to discuss anything or present anything truly different. The only debates you can have are 1 or 0 about a couple things. Same with interests, it's all converging to the same stuff and if you don't belong to one or another faction you are really isolated.
I think at this point there are too many kids or stupid people online. I have to get acquainted with real people and real socialization again, but I feel like I'll never trust people again, I think people are what they show in a safe context. I know I am the same person when I log off.
64 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-12 14:14
Naturally, the subjects and topics of this thread have been discussed before, and apparently by more intelligent people than me.

Perhaps it isn't news to others but I found this thread on lainchan that discusses a lot of the same topics at length: https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/10088.html
65 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-12 21:46
Probably a year ago I was naive enough to join such chatroom because it was linked on a certain board where posters called themselves NICE. Join our NICE server to spread KINDNESS and to be SINCERE. I've made an account and joined for whatever reason. Scrolled through the message history and only saw they saying how they want to fuck each other and some tranny posting it's wigs. I will cherish this discord experience for the rest of my life.
66 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-12 21:46
>>64
Yeah, lainchan is where you can have actual quality conversation about most topics without having people going full sperg.
67 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-17 15:50
>>65
I've found that almost without fail, the more cute, clean and innocent a community presents itself, the more horrible and degenerate the users will be.
68 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-22 06:52
>>65
>>67
If you feel the need to call attention to your positive traits, then the odds are that they aren't as great as you think. Speak less, act more. A bit much to ask of Discord kids though, I know. I spent some time in a similar kind of server, and there were a few regulars I enjoyed talking to and would sometimes chat with outside of it, but it was largely the same as you say. More specifically though, it was all branded on 'comfiness' and would frequently have drama and fights that were swiftly swept under the rug. I saw them re-advertise the place on some image/textboard recently, I don't remember where, but I found it funny that they felt the need to claim they had gotten rid of drama and all. Oh well. Best to them all. Glad I got rid of my Discord.
69 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-23 03:42
Weird that so much of the imageboard culture has been absorbed by social media and Discord... For some reason I always thought the average imageboard-goer would loathe social media and adopt other means of communication by default, like IRC, Mumble or XMPP.
70 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-23 17:32
>>69
People end up bending the knee to them and it sucks, but of course it happens. Pretty sure these places are dying and people feel like they have better prospects in places where people go more often.
71 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-23 20:21
>>69
>>70
I'd imagine that a big part of it is kids who flocked to 4chan after the 2016 election and branched out to other imageboards/textboards. Everytime I've seen these kinds of servers/chats or whatever, that's all it's been. MAGA frog profile pics, twitch memes, white American high school kids. Pretty insufferable.
(Watch these exact kids respond to me angrily for saying 'white kids' with some /pol/ memery...)
72 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-23 22:15
>>51
The design of tools determine their mode of interaction. It is much harder to eat sushi with a fork than with chopsticks. However it is much easier to use a fork to eat spaghetti. If all you have is a fork, you will eat a lot of spaghetti, and not a lot of sushi. Similarly, chat clients encourage certain type of behaviour, and discourage others. Discord has built in capabilities to make low-effort shitposting easy, and very few capabilities to make in-depth discussion easy. So you will get lots of shitposting, and very little in depth discussion. These things are predictable.
73 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-24 03:05
>>70
have better prospects
This is a pretty amusing premise, don't you think?
What does one really gain?

I've gone through some online friends and the only thing I have found is that I am just running away from myself.
74 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-24 19:35
Discord was a mistake
75 Name: Paperplane : 2020-07-24 20:29
>>69
I am what you would've called a "normalfag" back then and I think many anons underestimated the worth of being into imageboards. I always had wierd shit to show to my friends and it broadened my tastes in all types of media (music, film, vidya, animu/mango) while also having the brutal honesty from people all over the world right infront of me. If you aren't socially awkward and have IRL friends and hobbies besides IBs I'd call them an asset. At least they helped me quite a bit in life, one way or another.

This will probably sound entirely fabricated but even one of my ex gfs said that my knowledge and interest in IBs would make me an interesting person. So yeah, so called "normies" like me are like leeches. That's why so much of the chan culture leaked into the mainstream. Not long ago you were a cool hipster in certain circles if you browsed IBs. I mean it's a different story nowadays since everyone and their mother knows about 4chan and memes now originate on twitter and other social media but back in 2008 until ~ 2015/16 I'd say you could use it as a boost. Sure you wouldn't impress absolute normalfags with it but with the right presentation and social skills you were the cool kid among some people. And people noticed. This whole "cancer" theory was entirely true the whole time. If no one would've talked about /b/...
76 Name: Anonymous : 2020-07-25 18:47
>>75
So yeah, so called "normies" like me are like leeches.
I've been calling human beings parasitoids for years
77 Name: Paperplane : 2020-07-26 15:38
>>76

Edgy!
78 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-15 11:24
>>69
>>70
Or they ended up on fediverse which is some weird W3C email social media, any image board goer should loathe for permanent namefaging/tripfaging but they don't. Says alot.
79 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-16 13:46
>>78
The Fediverse is great. It is like the usual social media without any of the problems.
80 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-17 09:10
>>79
without any of the problems
The microblog implementations (other than Mastodon) are great, but the culture is generally awful no matter where you go. One claim about the Fediverse is that it has much more "real" communities since they aren't manipulated by corporate interest like that of twitter, but keeping those communities together only makes them even worse, in the ways that they are already bad on other forms of social media. I've used Fedi exclusively for two years, and the degree of childishness and complete lack of self awareness maintained by the majority of users is legitimately exhausting.
81 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-21 03:45
>>80
I have not seen such problems, but then, I stick to the "weird" parts of the Fediverse.
82 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-21 03:49
>>81
What parts do you consider to be weird? shitposter.club "weird", or witches.live "weird"? The latter Mastodon bubble is what I'm referring to.
83 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-21 07:23
>>79
Idk what to say, I wanted anonymous imageboard without real life degradation, not social media. Fediverse in totally is better then 90% of social media I'm assuming but I don't rate or use literal social media.
84 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-21 11:58
>>83
I never really liked Fediverse stuff since it's still social media, but Mastodon was ok I guess. Still twitter basically though.
85 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-23 19:18
>>82
The former is what I try to avoid, so... I'm sort of glad that I've managed to stay away from the cesspools where you congregate. Chan culture needs to stay on chans. I prefer instances like Cryptids.Online before it went down.
86 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-25 04:22
>>85
I involve myself with neither, but what I've observed is that while the "cesspools" are just edgy banter, the quirky Masto communities are actually incredibly toxic, with extremely reactionary antics, groupthink, and endless amounts of purity spiralling. Also a depressing lack of individuation, so much of the behavior is the same stuff cycled for months, and nothing interesting ever happening. uwu soft LARPers are insufferable at this point.
87 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-26 22:05
Need a new antisocial networking meta instead of bumping a discord link but I think this conversation doesn't have much more.
>>86
Are you sure that those incredibly toxic communities are truly just not LARPing with occasional idiots thinking they're in good company at most going on a shooting in the name of those communities? You wouldn't seem to like them either way since it's the same rehashed act at this point.
88 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-27 08:23
>>86
Also a depressing lack of individuation, so much of the behavior is the same stuff cycled for months
This applies to most things. Everyone is the same online and have been for a while. It has gotten boring but maybe I just grew up and don't find repetition amusing anymore.
>>87
It depends on kind of "toxic community" it is. Actual extreme politics websites are honestly pretty rare, with most parroting their opinions to get a rise out of people. Most who would do things like that are on different protocols anyway for privacy.
89 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-27 21:53
>>88
If they're parroting opinions purely to get a rise out of people it probably isn't their opinions. You could use the "toxic" wording for what they call "grifters" though, which is what runs those sites for the money and possibly the larp.
Most who would do things like that are on different protocols anyway for privacy.
You're giving them too much credit unless it's pigeon and sneaker networking. There is a minority that tries still.
90 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-29 09:37
I've been thinking how it would be the perfect internet anon community for the last few days. So far I've come to two conclusions:

-It has to be slow. Quality of posts often comes inversely proportionated to how fast the posting is. Anyone who has lurked streaming chats knows this. Not only you can make longer, more thoughful posts, but also you can stay on topic for longer. I remember when someone linked 8chan's /cyber/ on /g/ and I was amazed on how long the posts were, that was how I imagined the old internet was. It also makes for a smaller, tighter community,

-No media, only text. I'm still a bit skeptical about this since images can add a lot of value, but mostly it's just noise. No images would mean no porn or avatarfagging who would keep sexual deviant groomers away. It would also discourage dopamine fried kids to post.

Now the real challenge is how to build the community, so far I think the best method is to start with a very niche topic to discuss (like some obscure anime) and build upon it. Another challenge is gatekeeping, it's clear you need to keep retards away but if you gatekeep too much you risk becoming a circlejerk like your typical small Discord server.
91 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-29 10:01
>>90
It should be fun and enjoyable to use first of all, the whole reason people use slow textboards is because they enjoy reading the thought put into posts, but if you focus too heavily on something like that it becomes unfun to post in like the Hacker News.
Secondly, I think it is a fool's errand to try and make a perfect constructed community. I'm sure it has been done but it leads to every user having their own idea about what the site is, especially if it is artificially built. Look at /tea/ for example.
Also, I have noticed some fatigue about anime discussion, especially with everyone trying to make their own anime discussion site. Perhaps give some already-existing ones your attention and love than trying to construct one.
I do agree about text-only being a nice format, but it is not the only way to keep avatarfagging and that sort of behavior away, neo-meguca (I know, I know) simply forced anonymity and that kept the most obnoxious identities out.
Just some food for thought.
92 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-29 11:17
Yeah, I agree you can't consciously make a perfect community. It's basically a matter of luck, if you put artificial barriers you'll only attract elitist users (the bad kind of elitist). Security by obscurity, as some anon mentioned above, is the better method.
The anime thing is just an example, a better topic would be some creative hobby rather than something you just passively consume.
Maybe textboards are the future of anon internet culture. I'm also hoping for a return to html personal sites, neocities style. A more decentralized internet would be exciting.
93 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-29 22:53
An online acquaintance and I very briefly had a forum for glossopoeia. I'd like to try something like that again, but I am an impatient person. The last few times I started a collaborative project I left due to inactivity. I simply don't have the discipline or motivation to carry everyone else.
94 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-30 03:37
>>93
The lojban board (https://jbotcan.org) is pretty dead. Maybe you could try being more patient considering how niche your interests/hobbies probably are.
95 Name: Anonymous : 2020-08-30 03:43
>>92
Maybe textboards are the future of anon internet culture.
Careful, remember what happened when that was used on imageboards.
96 Name: Anonymous : 2020-09-03 11:01
>>90

Quality of posts often comes inversely proportionated to how fast the posting is.
Moreover, when you don't type real-time you usually have more time to think your thoughts out.
I've been meaning to reply to this post for several weeks now and it's only now that I found some time and headspace to do so. As such, my comment will prove more valuable than what I'd write on a whim (or at least I hope so).

I'm still a bit skeptical about this since images can add a lot of value, but mostly it's just noise.

I noticed even some good boards have this problem that the posts consist of an image and maybe 12 words. Moreover, GIF sharing threads garner more attention than the discussion threads.
I'd agree with you on that one.

No images would mean no porn or avatarfagging

There's always some way to identityfag, even when anonymity is enforced.
I agree on the porn, though - there literally are people who only come to various places just for porn.
4chan's /soc/ suffers from this - I'm pretty sure a huge chunk of its userbase aren't even people from 4chan.

who would keep sexual deviant groomers away.
Can you really do that kind of stuff on an anonymous imageboard? The only example I can think of was this bad /r9k/ trans psy-op cult, but they invited people to a Discord server and didn't use porn for recruitment...

Now the real challenge is how to build the community, so far I think the best method is to start with a very niche topic to discuss (like some obscure anime) and build upon it.

This board originally started as a YKK/ARIA discussion board, so you're on point to some extent. I wonder how many posters here still remember these times.
Building a community around a subject is inevitable in such cases - eventually, the subject of the board's existence will be discussed to death (while in some cases new content doesn't surface, like it often is for old cult-classic anime).

>>92

Security by obscurity, as some anon mentioned above, is the better method.

It's also tricky to get it right. Some places gain enough notoriety to turn into the imageboard equivalent of Fight Club.
Neo-meguca gets it right - you somehow have to discover the right domain for it, get used to the controls, lurk enough not to make a fool of yourself, pass some anime-based CAPTCHA etc.

a better topic would be some creative hobby rather than something you just passively consume

I agree, although it's decently hard to create a community based on creative things. 4chan's /diy/'s pretty slow/dead, since people a) don't do DIY daily, b) don't post when they don't have any results to show, c) the bar of entry is quite high.
Drawing communities, on the other hand, aren't that anon. You recognize people by their drawing style; some of them drop anon at some point in favour of pseudonymity and building their fanbases.

I'm also hoping for a return to html personal sites, neocities style.

From the technological standpoint we're already there.

A more decentralized internet would be exciting.

Totally. I only wish it was federated in some way.
Finding all these 8chan survivor boards already proves difficult at times.

>>95
What happened?
97 Name: Anonymous : 2020-09-03 16:03
>>96
eventually, the subject of the board's existence will be discussed to death
This is very true, even the forums about Chris Chan either became about other weirdos or their personal lives. Communities need to be able to evolve or have some broader topic, even /m/ has accepted discussing sci-fi/cyberpunk in general rather than just mecha anime because of how long-lived the community is and everything old has already been discussed and or hasn't been translated.

Neo-meguca gets it right - you somehow have to discover the right domain for it, get used to the controls, lurk enough not to make a fool of yourself, pass some anime-based CAPTCHA etc.

As someone who has lurked there, there was some pretty interesting cultural stuff happening there.
The board itself changes URLs and is found so often because it is designed to be linked to. It is a "streamboard" and is linked to on 4chan and r/a/dio commonly.
The anime based captcha also is easily bypassed by just clicking the character that appears multiple times.
It also essentially just a discord server that occasionally talks about 4chan meta, but the quality fluctuates depending on the year and day moreso than most board. Most of the old guard has already fucked off to discord or "bunkers" which are more obscure and often have posters intimately familiar with each-other so I don't think it's necessarily the best system.

I only wish it was federated in some way.
There is (was?) a webring when 8chan first died. The problem with federating sites like imageboards is that the administration/userbases of such sites get ornery about each-other because of the different philosophies they have.

What happened?
Aside from the big boards becoming shitty they just sort of fizzled out, Probably because the teens who ran them grew up. Not a message board but http://www.baka-updates.com/ is a good example of this happening to a lot of the 2000s imageboard-wapanese crowd.
As well, the Baka-Updates team continued to grow older. An increase in responsibilities with work and new families meant that we could not commit as much time into maintaining the website. Therefore we have decided it is the right time to shut down.
98 Name: Anonymous : 2020-09-04 05:46
>>96
The constant hyping of something like this which doesn't need to be exaggerated brings in and creates the really bad type of elitist, this eventually ruins the community making it no longer about anon internet culture and brings in pseudo hell elitist who end up doing revisionism and replace anyone or anything even related to anon internet culture beyond surface ideas at most. Then the clowns end up pissing on the corpse. They're still pissing on the corpse nonstop and have been for almost two decades now. Rather have it seam like something boring and undervalued so only those who truly want it come. This hasn't only happened with anon internet culture but doing "it's the future™" causes it but humans need pride, the best way to destroy a movement is demoralisation. This is one of the biggest problems with anon culture, avoiding way too much unnecessary ego without making a walled garden, since that isn't close to anon internet culture and tracks anons. Textboards get part of this right since there's no media unless you encode and part messages but if this is pushed as an artificial barrier it only increases the chance that those elitist start growing.
This is completely separate from orange stickmen bringing in green and pink stickmen but similar, incorrectly handling meta kills.
>>97
Other weirdos was fine and related, the forum users' personal lives and influx of weirdo idols using the forum was the meta which ruined them. The latter wasn't avoidable forever for this exact type of community.
99 Name: Anonymous : 2020-09-04 16:59
>>97
When it came to the CWCki, the most natural way for them to keep the community alive was to discuss other "lolcows". I'd even say it was pretty easy for them.
Now /m/, just as you mentioned, had to generalize more, since there's not a lot of /m/-tier content coming up these days.

The board itself changes URLs and is found so often because it is designed to be linked to.

Partially. They only seem to kill off the domains when /pol/-tier people flood in using them. Other than that I believe I've seen a direct link to it once (on this textboard nonetheless) and you can get in from r/a/dio if you know it exists and are lucky enough.
Dunno about it being linked on 4chan, because I don't go there much.

It also essentially just a discord server that occasionally talks about 4chan meta
Nah, not only. They have a pretty good community with groupwatches and events, discuss a fair share of their own board culture (also related to r/a/dio)... the topics vary from history to coding, and it's all on /a/.

Most of the old guard has already fucked off to discord
I recall someone saying the spin-off Discords that some namefags made in anger were mostly dead. Besides, is the old guard better? Their community right now isn't the worst.

There is (was?) a webring when 8chan first died. The problem with federating sites like imageboards is that the administration/userbases of such sites get ornery about each-other because of the different philosophies they have.
There still is, but some 8chan splinters (e.g. /late/) aren't hosted on anon.cafe nor julay.world, and as such sometimes don't end up being part of the Cross-Chan Alliance/Imageboard Federation.

Not a message board but http://www.baka-updates.com/ is a good example of this happening to a lot of the 2000s imageboard-wapanese crowd.

They literally stated that fansubs becoming obsolete was one of the reasons to shut the whole thing down.
I think Hongfire might be a better example. But in general, sure.

>>98

but if this is pushed as an artificial barrier it only increases the chance that those elitist start growing
And half of the discussion will be about how to get the damned system to work.
100 Name: Anonymous : 2020-09-04 18:04
>>98
incorrectly handling meta kills.
A lot of people are turned off by meta it seems. For non-imageboards people talk about how they could never get into Mastodon because half of the discussion is about the software and federations itself.
>>99
Hongfire
Damn, I remember downloading 3DCG stuff from there. Good times. Poking around, it looks like it succumbed to bots and went down and the owner didn't bother.

I'm also glad to hear you can enjoy Meguca. I don't personally care for liveposting and the fluctuating nature of the userbase isn't for me.
I recall someone saying the spin-off Discords that some namefags made in anger were mostly dead.
Mostly. There are some that are still alive because of how many were made. There's even a "true" discord. It became an overly elitist mess like that other user was saying due to excessive meta.
Besides, is the old guard better?
Aside from nostalgia, they used to DJ a lot so there was more variety. Even today you have some staff members who are dearly missed but that just might be nostalgia.

I personally think that because of the graying demographics that frequent sites like these, this sort of culture will become like proper BBS or other things of that nature. Niche, slow things that have their dedicated users (aside from an internet adventurer poking around like you see on occasion). and I think the slower nature of textboards is part of why they are catching on. Textboard users don't mind waiting a week for a reply.

It's kind of sad seeing it get like this when a decade ago everyone and their mother had an imageboard, but if even an echo of the spirit persists I will be satisfied. Things change and people aren't sure how to bring it back, everyone is trying their own methods in vain it feels like.
101 Name: Anonymous : 2020-09-05 05:42
>>99
And half of the discussion will be about how to get the damned system to work.
You got what you asked for with meta but the system doesn't exist out of nowhere. It's almost unavoidable and definitely causes useless ego growth. Anon culture is really hard and only had a chance of surviving before due to the network not being that important.
>>100
Meta is vague but fediverse is mostly about the software and federations by design, they should get turned off. Pawoo and the likes do get users by making fediverse invisible and instead about "pawoo" but having completely ignorant users doesn't work for these systems and causes walled gardens that are vary likely to cut off in the end.
Textboard users don't mind waiting a week for a reply.
I wouldn't generalise and depend on that.
102 Name: Anonymous : 2020-09-07 20:34
The current situation revolves around meta or catch-all generals because people's interests today are just specialized shopping, and shoppers want more stuff to buy rather than quality things to cherish
This leads in turn to interests that are shallow by design so it's hard to be nerdy about them
103 Name: Anonymous : 2020-09-08 06:29
>>102
Another reason to despise generals but this thread became a general and I never liked this thread.
I really don't think these types of sites are a good use for serious discussion and movements.
104 Name: Anonymous : 2020-09-08 21:45
There are no more serious discussions to be had.
105 Name: Anonymous : 2020-09-08 23:41
>>104
I've only lied once the post but I agree with this and am a huge hypocrite.

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